Logic as Rape vs. Truth and Love

 

By Kristo Ivanov, prof.em., Umeå University

September 2022 (rev. 240731-1125)

 

(https://www8.informatik.umu.se/~kivanov/LogicRapeTruthLove.html)

(https://archive.org/details/logic-rape-truth-love)

 

 

CONTENTS

 

 

Link to a general disclaimer

Introduction

From: Information and Debate

From: Information on: Christianism or Atheism

From: Information and Theology

Case study: Author at the service of Atheism

Reflections

Conclusion

 

 

 

Introduction

 

 

The motivation to write the present paper arouse from reading a text written (in Swedish) by a colleague of mine where he defended himself from a criticism of his published views on intelligent design and evolution(herehere, and here). The Swedish text can be fairly translated by the reader in e.g. the Google-translator, in pieces of maximum 5000 characters (with spaces). I felt a profound unease in witnessing my colleague’s proud defense against what I perceived as an outrageous, dishonorable intellectual abuse, which unfortunately already is common and characterizes much of what in going on in a decadent culture. Universal Darwinism and selection had namely already been criticized as being a tautology: my outrage in this context can be a symptom of my impression of the difficulties inherent in the theory of evolution, including those inherent in its logical justification exemplified in e.g. Reconsidering the logical structure of the theory of evolution. Such objection are usually done away by means of logical re-constructions, such as in Wikipedia’s Objections to evolution.

 

Only later, however, I became aware that my deep sense of outrage was a reenactment of what the Russian author Dostoevsky perceived also as a questioning of the freewill. It was famously and furiously expressed in his novella Notes from the Underground (1864), especially the last chapters 7 to 9 of its first Part 1. Wikipedia describes them as covering “theories of reason and logic, closing with the last two chapters as a summary and transition into Part 2”. It was written long before the advent of analytical psychology and announced the turmoil leading to the Russian revolution, the Soviet Union, and to the ongoing definitive secularization of the West. It resonates with several of my own thoughts and texts starting with their verbalization in Computers as embodiment of mathematics and logicand my reflections on the drive towards the computerization of society. It resonates also with my comments on some of the motivations for the clash in Ukraine between Russia and the West. 

 

I will not enter a discussion about Swedish texts whose translation would require an excessive effort of mine. The discussion will start from my theological views that I have already advanced in a paper on Information and Theology that will also be used here below. I will only detail my view on the difficulty of debates that I have presented in another paper on Information and Debateand in Information on: Christianism or Atheism. My conclusion is that debates risk to be forcibly reduced to logic and that can be perceived as forced debates where logic is a substitute for Christian love.

 

I will start with slightly edited excerpts from the two last mentioned papers, which I will try to detail by commenting them further.

 

 

 

From: Information and Debate

(https://ia601800.us.archive.org/4/items/Debate_201801/Debate.html#Other)

 

 

My familiarity with analytical psychology has probably prompted me to conceive a hypothesis on why analytically, logically or mathematically gifted people, especially scientists, usually display perseverance - not the least in private unending debates that they even prefer, rather than public debates that follow publishing. My hypothesis is that such minds peel off the emotional empathic content of the debated issue. It seems to the essence of formal science as even advanced in F. Cajori’s History of Mathematical Notations.

 

Logical-mathematical notation also allows the belief that any argument is self-contained in that presupposes a common understanding of the used words or concepts, as well their presuppositions about the context. Being so, it presupposes no need of references to other literature or data, and the party who relies on only logic can write briefly, increasing the expectation that what he writes can and will be read. No only read but also understood unless the other party is illogical, equivalent to less intelligent of stupid. If this other party can afford to make an ulterior effort to explain his additional data, literature, definitions of terms, presupposition and context, he will be countered with the objection that he cannot expect to be read, and even less studied, because he is prolix and requires too much time and attention.

 

 Because of this, if in lack of faith in any great religion and Christianism in particular, these extremely gifted logical people may have great difficulty to establish a whole contact and merge in trust with another mind, a contact which would be fulfilled in love or Christian “caritas” or social benevolence. Many people cannot establish a whole, intimate, personal contact even with other people, friends and colleagues at work, and may have no spouse or “partner”, or are Incels. They may have no whole deep contact with members of their own family with whom they cannot share their innermost doubts, feelings, longings, fantasies and often not even experiences of their own daily work or professional life. It will be partly evidenced by cases of domestic violence and by the percentage of marriages ending in divorce. This leads in turn to their need for a compensation, attempts to forced repeated, supposedly intimate thought-contact with another party on matters that are forcefully divested of emotions, as if it were a sort of “rape”, as suggested by one main dimension of the word perseverate and perseverance, and interpretable in terms my Reason and Gender. An opposite type of mind in this respect is the author or romances or of diaries, who talks with the expected world of readers or with his own diary without requiring a response. 

 

Forced logic can be seen as a historic social tragedy as implemented in the ongoing computerization of society and the problems of human-computer interaction. It is also apparent in judicial systems such as the Swedish one. Citizens arrested by the police and suspect for having committed grave crimes are acquitted in court because “beyond any reasonable doubt” is interpreted in only logical terms. The courts cannot handle the combination of a series of “probabilities” that incriminate the accused, while the defending lawyers conceive the most improbable possibilities in the course of the criminal event that “explain” their client’s innocence well within the range of any reasonable doubt. (Cf. in Swedish language examples here and here). Logic precludes the possibility of beyond any reasonable doubt in many practical cases. The committed advocates of the theory of evolution that is accused for being a tautology (see above) work as the defending advocates of suspect criminals who abuse of the principle of beyond reasonable doubt and can always reconstruct any objection to the theory by means of tautological arguments. When “public opinion” or political correctness finally reacts to such schemes that free arrested suspects, the consequence as in the case of “rape” is that the judicial definition of rape is changed to “sexual consent” (see here and here), switching from coercion-based to consent-based definitions of rape and laws. Paradoxically, the difficulty of proof beyond any reasonable doubt, is then bypassed by the court’s use of testimony’s “trustworthiness” (Swedish: trovärdighet) by the assumed “oppressed” raped party. Not to mention the analog to raped, i.e. the “oppressed” in hate crimes in social media as well as in violence against women in modern western nations, after decades of women’s liberation movements, and sexual education replacing moral and religious education. Is it the failure of such logic of positive law, replacing natural law, that leads to violence and wars as lately in Ukraine?

 

 

 

From: Information on: Christianism or Atheism

(https://ia802509.us.archive.org/27/items/renard-nn/RenardNN.html)

 

 

A perhaps meaningful curiosity is that, as remarked by one reader, the integration of spirit and matter is also the subject of a book by Matthew Fox and co-author Rupert Sheldrake, The Physics of Angels: Exploring the Realm Where Science and Spirit Meet. I heard of Sheldrake long ago and noted the drawing of apparent relations of his ideas to Carl Jung (and Hans Driesch), in matters that in turn partially relate to my discussions in the essay on Quantum Physics, Computer and Psychology. In lack of finding something deeper in literature a speculative intuition of mine, based on conclusions in the presentation of my paper Reason and Gender. I suggest an apparently farfetched but classic coupling of the relation of matter-spirit to theology in terms of the relation between the masculine and feminine. And as a speculative curiosity for those who can abide it, I may go further here and now, relating it to an interpretation of the classic citation of humans been born Inter faeces et urinam nascimur  (cf. here and here): spirited life’s production of dead matter (faeces et urinam) and matter’s (semen and ovum) production of living spirit. An outright theological extension of the latter can lead to the doctrine of Incarnation as in Christianism (and Hinduism) while modern secular unconscious trivialization reduces it to the popular concept of avatar, (here and here), vastly used and misused in computer contexts. All this while scientists in today’s secular western culture tend to also ignore the meaning of Eucharist because of missing consciousness of the relation between science and theology as mediated by the philosophy of science. It is a mediation that barely dares to acknowledge the challenge of quantum physics where Matter with capital “M” with its supposed “particles” tends to (mathematically) disappear as Spirit with capital “S” has disappeared in the context of “spirituality”. One of the tragic consequences is that the Eucharist is substituted by Satanism, which in turn tinges the influence of paganism and atheism for the future of our youth. It is a Satanism that is represented by the historical case of Maria de Naglowska, about whom Wikipedia relates that “the Holy Spirit of the classic Christian trinity is recognized as the divine feminine. Her practices aimed to bring about a reconciliation of the light and dark forces in nature through the union of the masculine and feminine, revealing the spiritually transformative power of sex.” Today, even the union of the masculine and feminine tends to disappear in the shadow of LGBT movements.

 

 

 

 

From: Information and Theology

(https://ia600905.us.archive.org/15/items/kivanov_informatik_Theo/Theo.html#Requests)

 

 

When discussing the question of existence and its relation to love and agape mentioned earlier it is convenient to consider also humans' requirement that God should give us (the capability of constructing?) "proofs" of its "existence" or "power" or allow himself to be "tested" in a "trial". This disregards the philosophical problem of "existence" (see above) and also disregards the fact that Christian religion can be seen as differing from e.g. Islam in that it gives priority to love over power. This is particularly interesting when noting that feminism is often based upon the reference to, and the request for power. Referring once again to the same book by Fichte as above, in one of the appendixes of the book dealing with Sur les Intentions de la Mort de Jésus [On the Intentions of Jesus' Death, pp. 195-216] the author explains why Jesus is seen to be supposed to die in order to fulfill the Christian message, relinquishing the recourse to power. 


Conversion motivated by power does not square with Christianity. Jesus did not found a political party or a terrorist organization (cf. my blog entry on 
terrorism) in order to overthrow the Roman empire, as it has been historically expected of a Jewish Messiah. A "proof" would also imply a display of power instead of love, despite the rhetorical differentiation between the force of argument and argument of force. It is also a display of (the pride of) power to show that one does not need love, as the atheist who feels pride for his super human "Nietzschean" intelligent disclosure of the religious illusion and capacity to endure suffering without the illusion of false solace in a future afterlife based upon dependence upon a supposed loving mighty God. This is analog to the “existentialist” emphasis on a proud individual “responsibility” that defines a supposed meaning of life and allows to declare a “radical atheism”. The interesting thing is that proofs do not appear to be valid or relevant not even regarding love between humans. The lover who hopes to entice the loved one as humans who desire God' attention and love will not start by requiring the loved one to give proofs of being worthy to be loved, since loveliness cannot be empirically or logically verified. Who is the God to be loved? The answer is: understand and feel the sacred books, the Bible, which is the most discussed, challenged and tested text of at least the Western world. Most genuinely faithful Christians and others learn to love God by being passionately moved to love by the tales in the sacred books where apparent grimness, harshness, hardheartedness and strictness, describe humanity's progressive understanding of a loving God. 


The lover who hopes to conquer the loved one will modestly pass a "proof" of himself by offering or sacrificing something valuable in the hope to entice. The lover will not offer a supposedly rational rebuttal to an "atheist" who questions his (her) love by claiming that after all the chosen object of love despite of “existing” may not be worthy of love because of its existence can be put in doubt (sudden death), untrustworthiness, ultimate ugliness, or stupidity. For some (problematic) food for thought, see the psychoanalytic vs. Jungian views about "
regression in the service of the ego". So, it will also be when a subaltern wishes to awake the attention of a manager or master. Somebody looking for or hoping to employed at a company, as a human who hopes for God's love and attention, will not go to the manager requiring proofs that the manager is proficient and that the company is deserving his contribution when it is his own responsibility to investigate and understand that. On the contrary, the candidate will prepare himself fulfilling the beloved's expectations, hoping for the best. If not, the project will be doomed to failure from the very beginning, and the initial mistrust will turn out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. The ultimate cause of it all is related to "Ego inflation".

 

 

 

Case study: Author at the service of atheism

 

 

This is only for those who understand spoken and written Swedish and happen to have the time and interest for the subject. Most of the material is in Swedish but some of the written text is translated in English in order to allow others to guess the import of the question.

 

It’s about a "summer talk" in 2005 by author Lena Andersson. It is a rhetorically violent atheist sermon attacking the image of Jesus Christ, which can be listened (in Swedish) here or here (about 50 minutes).

 

The content of the summer talk was later summarized by Lena Andersson herself in the magazine Humanisten (17 May 2021) Jesus – självgod och arrogant. [Jesus - smug and arrogant]. The English translation is now presented below:

 

Jesus - smug and arrogant

 

Jesus is considered good. He even personifies goodness. Reading the Gospels, it's hard to understand how this image came about. If you go by the text alone, and what else can you go by, Jesus is not good. Sometimes he is, of course, and to some people, but who isn't? He is self-righteous, however, and arrogant. Not infrequently, he exhibits overbearing and tyrannical traits. Only someone who has already decided that Jesus is good can read that meaning into the text.

 

Though it starts well. Jesus gives the Sermon on the Mount in chapters five to seven of Matthew's Gospel. It contains all the nice things we have been taught belong to him. Turn the other cheek, love your enemies, don't be hypocritical, if your right eye deceives you, pluck it out and throw it away, etc. But through the story that follows, he doesn't live up to his own intentions but engages in unrestrained punishment, condemnation and mockery of others who can't do it either.

 

When he has gathered the disciples, he sends them out to heal the sick and proclaim that the kingdom of heaven is at hand. "In every town or village you come to," Jesus tells them, "find out who is worthy there and stay with him until you go on. [...] If one does not receive you or listen to your words, leave that house or town and shake its dust from your feet. Surely, it will be more lenient on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for such a city."

 

Joseph Stalin? No, Jesus of Nazareth who recruits proselytes. He also immediately admits: "I have come not with peace but with a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a son's wife against her mother-in-law, and the man's household will be his enemies". Great sacrifices are necessary for the future kingdom of heaven, we understand. "He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy to belong to me, and he who loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy to belong to me. Whoever does not take up his cross and follow me is not worthy to belong to me".

 

This is how the dictator speaks to his creatures. Like all autocrats, Jesus silences criticism. One day he asks the Pharisees whose son the Messiah is. They answer incorrectly, of course, because they do not believe in Jesus as one must if one wants to escape his contempt. Jesus gives the Pharisees another trick question, after which we learn that "no one could answer him, and after that day no one dared to ask him any more questions."

 

Is this a good man? Have we not been taught to be critical of authority? That no one is more important than anyone else? To use reason and ask questions? Why, then, have we learned at the same time that Jesus is good when in fact he exhibits all the traits we condemn in leaders?

 

Anyone who denies Jesus commits, as we know, the worst of crimes. The disciple Peter does so three times just before the cock crows. We find him pitiful. Jesus himself, on the other hand, may deny anyone he likes at any time, because he is always the one who decides what is right in a given situation. As Jesus stands and speaks to the people, his mother and his brothers come and ask to speak to Jesus. "Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?" Jesus says, pointing to the disciples. "This is my mother and my brothers."

 

What was that? Shouldn't you honor your father and mother, wasn't that an important commandment? Yes, but first a few more pages, when the Pharisees ask Jesus why the disciples are breaking the "rules of the fathers" and not washing their hands before eating. Jesus knows that offense is the best defense and immediately asks them why they themselves are breaking God's commandments. "God has said, 'Have respect for your father and your mother,' and, 'Whoever reviles his father or his mother will die. But you say that if someone says to his father or mother, 'What I could have helped you with, I will give as a gift to the temple,' then he does not have to show respect for his father or mother."

 

Why then did Jesus get away with denying his mother, and saying that anyone who loves his parents more than they love him is not worthy to follow the leader? Well why not when Jesus' hallmark is whimsy.

 

Just before he is about to die, he is lying at the table and a woman comes up with a bottle of expensive balm which she sprinkles on his hair. The disciples are outraged, saying it is a waste of the expensive oil. It could have been used to give a lot of money to the poor. Jesus thinks of the poor sometimes, when he feels like it. But right now he wants this balm in his hair (maybe he wants the woman too). In any case, he is not discouraged, but rebukes modestly. "Why are you making the woman sad? She has done me a good turn. You always have the poor with you, but you don't always have me."

 

That was exactly what was suspected. One: Jesus is more important than the poor. Two: Jesus has no ambition to make poverty disappear; the poor will always be there, so that those who want to lighten their hearts by giving to them will feel good.

 

In the rest of the literature, this pomposity is matched only by Karlsson on the roof. Both could have made the statement "learn from me, who have a gentle and humble heart". It is not Karlsson who says it.

 

Lena Andersson

 

This talk is probably important for understanding the secular if not violently atheist cultural environment in which people have lived and live in modern Sweden and which It also characterizes parts of the Western world, which in turn characterizes how it perceives and acts in politics, including foreign policy such as the attitude to the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. I have experienced the latter also through the reactions to my apparently controversial essay on the conflict.

 

The talk raised many reactions among listeners, which in turn were reported by the press, as in Jesusbild vållade lyssnarstorm [Characterization of Jesus caused a storm among listeners] Svenska Dagbladet, published 2005-07-14 (non-subscribers of the newspaper can only read the initial lines of the text).

 

Reaction of some other readers (including myself) are found in the lower half of page 27 of Svenska Dagbladet 25 July 2005, under the title SYNPUNKT - Lena Andersson: Sommarpratare. [VIEWPOINT. Theme: Lena Andersson’s summer talk]. Two analytically-logically more complex, apologetically critical reactions to Andersson’s talk were published on the net by the already above mentioned Krister Renard (in Swedish, here and here). Their analytical, complexity, however, curiously enough suggested to me that if logic is a sort of rape, a very sharp apologetics may be felt like a violent reaction to violence, like a revenge, vengeance or “war” as an opposite to a challenging forgiveness that, by the way, would hardly be expected by someone challenging for one and half hour at the radio and in writing the evil or historicity of the Holocaust or the morality of the prophet Muhammad.

 

In this context I must mention the case I know, of a woman who reported that once, when menaced with an axe by her drugged-up husband, she spontaneously reacted by slowly stretching her arm and caressed his face, with the result that he dropped the axe to the floor. I also listened to a radio documentary telling about a hardened man sentenced to life imprisonment for murdering a young woman, who upon being visited in prison by her forgiving parents got moved and burst into tears, “understanding” his crime upon his first life experience of genuine human empathy, mercy or compassion close to Christian love. This does not mean that normal conversation and elementary debate should not follow elementary logic, from which mathematical logic as well as all science can be seen as having originated. Debate on political and ethical issues, for not becoming meaningless must, however, start from consciousness about the meaning of logical systems and their connection to theology. All this, of course, paradoxically problematizes the evaluation of what I mentioned at the beginning of this paper regarding my “unease in witnessing Renard’s proud defense against what I perceived as an outrageous, dishonorable intellectual abuse”, if my “unease” is violent outrage, and his “pride” is violent logical reaction.

 

A most touching and profound, if yet opportunely analytically simple, late attempt to discuss Lena Andersson's approach is probably the article by earlier mentioned article by Börje Peratt on 2019-06-16, Lena Andersson i ateismens tjänst [Lena Andersson at the service of atheism] where he also refers to his related "similar article" on Fullt möjligt förena tro och vetenskap [Fully possibility to combine faith and science]. In this respect he does not go so deep and in detail as Renard does in his second article linked above. Wikipedia reports that Börje Peratt died on 20 December 2021, but elsewhere he featured himself both as researcher and in a biography.

 

A kind of public conclusion of the whole case up to now can be sensed in Lena Andersson's relative development as revealed when being  interviewed in June 2018 by Eric Schüldt in the program "60 minutes - Podcast".

 

My own hypothesis is that Lena Andersson suffers from being trapped by her own analytical-logical talent, according to my explanations in Information and Debate, and Reason and Gender. They are consistent with the message implicit in her above interview and her novel Egenmäktig förfarande: en roman om kärlek [Willful refractory behavior: A novel on love].

 

It can be interpreted as showing how a logically argumentative mind fails in convincing or forcing a partner to retribute love. Remarkably, it turns out that the Swedish title, borrowed from the legal code, is difficult to translate, being done in Wikipedia as criminal conversion, that in turn offers only one meaning coming close to the phenomenon at hand: taking without owner's consent, that in turn comes close to “rape” but loses its applicability in our context when specifically considered in Wikipedia. A sad association and analogy is, however, to the “Morning-after pill” in the sense of “Emergency contraception is used to prevent pregnancy for women who've had unprotected sex or whose birth control method has failed.” In our present case, without my having studied Andersson’s book, I see it as meaning that Andersson reacts to the fact that a man can court a woman and obtain certain more intimate favors while she comes to hope for a more stable relationship, maybe even a marriage, that later is not materialized. The courting interplay may become a power-game and she may later accuse the man for a sort of statutory rape committed while she was drunk or asleep, as in the tragic case of Julian Assange. If the more intimate favors have resulted in a pregnancy there is also the option of morning-after pill or abortion but the bitter feeling for having been rejected will persist in that logic argumentation has failed in understanding and uniting each other in love. The political expression of this end-game may be radical feminism that I consider in my earlier mentioned paper on Reason and Gender.

 

The disappointment for the courting partner concludes in qualifying him with translations of the Swedish “egenmäktig”, adjectives found in a dictionary such as arbitrary, high-handed, wayward, refractory, balky, willful. They can be still better grasped by means of their antonyms amenable, compliant, docile, submissive, tractable. It reveals what, for a logical mind, it all was about: to control, without realizing that control is power, and that if hate is the logical contrary of love, it is power in terms of logic or brute force (rape) that is its psychological contrary. Or better as I write in a paper on the ethics of research:

 

The psychologist and humanist, Carl Jung, writes (in his Collected Works 7, §78) that logically, the opposite of love is hate, and of Eros, Phobos (fear); but psychologically it is the will to power. Those who do not understand this message are the same who misunderstand the essence of love and believe that it may be forced through cognition and various forms of cognitive therapies, balance of power, emancipation and egalitarianism. 

 

I see this as a classical philosophical problem in that the philosopher Immanuel Kant’s ethics of practical reason and the “ought” cannot guide the analytically argumentative cognition of pure reason over or further to love. It is a problem that the philosopher leaves to the aesthetics of the critique of judgment that in a Western secularized culture is reduced to design or worse, to the creation and acquisition of beautiful objects and even (courting or rape of?) human subjects. That is: in place of reciprocal understanding and love as explained in my presentation of the essay on Reason and Gender. In a forced situation it is indeed more felicitous that a woman writes a critical book penalizing in public the anonymous willful refractory man, rather than that a man rapes the refractory woman. In my view Andersson’s text reveals the need of philosophical schooling, as well theological one at the minimum level of Christian Catechesis. No questions are posed about the origins and pre-requisites of the ideal of Egalitarianism and Human rights. The socio-political framework is reduced to a supposed balance of liberalism vs. socialism or at its best to a sort of theology of liberation and divinization of democracy. That is: argumentative Democracy as a substitute for God as lately shown in my review of information about the Russia-Ukraine conflict. Cf. the quotation above: “Have we not been taught to be critical of authority? That no one is more important than anyone else?”.

 

 

 

Reflections

 

 

What I wish to convey from these excerpts is that (formal) logic being by definition purged from all emotions and values (except the assumed value of the logic process itself), it forces the receiver of the message to be convinced, equal to agree. If this does not happen, that is, the receiver of the message does not state an agreement (whatever it implies for further action), this receiver is forced to put forward a counter-argument, all based on explicit or implicit (possibly controversial or misunderstood) premises such as definitions of terms and presuppositions about the application’s environment. If the premises happen to be implicit, the responsibility is forced upon the receiver to investigate and uncover the premises and formulate agreed-upon definitions, and to put forward a counter-argument.

 

As I have put forward in another occasion, a quarrel between spouses may then turn out to be that a logically-analytically gifted man who expected to convince the counterpart may be countered by the answer: “You may be right but I want to divorce”. In an essay on the Russia-NATO-Ukraine conflict I show that this is what happens in the case of armed-conflicts or wars, as well as in spouses who divorce and struggle for the partitioning of home, money, goods and children. The conflict and war become most critical when there is no possibility to divorce, like in the case of one spouse who is not self-supporting, exactly as in the case of the adjacent countries Russia-Ukraine when there was and there is a cold-war reminiscent consisting of danger of installation of nuclear weapons next to the countries’ borders.

 

But a main question in the present text is also to observe that the logical framing of initial diplomatic contact between the spouses or countries is a simplification of what is to be understood as “logic”, a logic that is basically valuable and necessary. In the study of the foundations of mathematics and logic it can, and arguably must, be seen as extracted from the structure of language. This is accounted in my paper on Computers and embodied mathematics and logic, which also recalls the failure of our scientific culture in ascertaining the foundations of formal science leading to abuse of mathematics and logic, and today: computers. This may be a also be a paradoxical failure of the western culture inasmuch the “crisis of westerns philosophy” uncovers the final predominance of formal science in what came to be natural science and technology, which in turn lead to secularization in parallel with the development of industry, material if not spiritual wellbeing, and the Military-industrial complex after two world wars. All to be compared with e.g. the values of Science and Civilization in China, which did not appear to excel in or exploit natural science up to industrialism as in the West. Mathematical-logical-analytical gifted humans tend to be considered as polymath-geniuses since anything can be mathematized (as illustrated by Herbert Simon’s career), gaining the most rewarding and influential positions in society as I exemplify in the context of computers, achieving even a position analog to a “saint”, as Albert Einstein. Such geniuses have a giftedness and frame of mind that in later depth psychology can correspond to one particular type among “Psychological Types”. It may come to its place in the narrow context of typical engineering work that today is also the same as in technoscience, and the invasion of such thinking all over society, as expressed in technocracy and social engineering that in turn appears today in the “totalitarian” ambitions of evolution theory in the direction of a Theory of Everything, which in earlier times would have tersely corresponded to God. In antiquity and earlier times this particular giftedness would have corresponded to manual work, and its limitations are clearly described in the Bible’s Sirach (chaps. 38:24-34 and 39:1-11) as I already remarked in my paper on Information and Theology.

 

When elementary, if yet mathematical, logic is used as a substitute for language it means that the receiver of the message in practice must agree if not able and willing to work out the laborious translation of the whole issue back to ordinary language. A logically gifted colleague of mine illustrates paradoxically his psychology of flight from ordinary language to logic by claiming that all criticism of logic is a cowardly flight from logic to psychology, a miserable psychologism. It illustrates a tragic shortcoming in our culture, which is exemplified in the breakdown of ordinary-language communication before wars and armed conflicts such as lately between Russia and Ukraine. The very same colleague of mine is fiercely angry at my own essay on the crisis of information about the conflict between Russia and Ukraine and has repeatedly requested me to “withdraw” its publication on the net. He himself did not write any essay on the subject but mails to me excerpts from Westerns sources of news. It all shows to me what all this is about if he were in position of political or entrepreneurial power: dictatorial censorship in the paradoxical context of Western claims of democratic “freedom of expression”.

 

If I had been a faithful enthusiast of Freudian psychoanalysis rather than of Jungian analytical psychology I would have recurred to counter such accusations of psychologism for being examples of the criticized concepts of resistance and rationalization, as it is done by the stout defenders of the theory of evolution, or of fact resistance (or of alternative facts, as opposed to my dissertation on quality of information) as well as by the defenders of its opposite, intelligent design. An example is given by an analytically gifted colleague who read an early version of the present paper and wrote to me (here in a slightly edited anonymized form):

 

I don't think that your justification for equating logic with rape is justified. It's relatively easy to defend oneself against bad logic, it is enough to answer a little nonsensically and on a high tone, and everyone will understand that the dialogue has broken down and no one is right. It's worse with bad psychology. When a person psychologizes another person by putting himself above and judge the other, it is not possible to defend oneself because whatever the second one says, the first one will not answer immediately but will also psychologize the answer. The other can never defend himself against it. There is a good example of this in your debate article.

 

On further reflection, I find that one could rewrite your "rape" article by replacing all mentions of "logic" with "psychology" or "psychologizing". Then it will be much more accurate. Psychology as rape.

 

Oh really? “The other can never defend himself against it”? Defend himself from a psychological attack? What about defending oneself by complaining for psychologism? And how can one defend himself from a logical attack, a “logicism” with perfect logic using undefined ambiguous terms that are applied in indeterminate or inappropriate circumstances? It is the same logic and mathematics that motivated a cultured mathematician like Paolo Zellini to write (in Italian) The Dictatorship of Calculus, along the lines of another book translated into English, The Mathematics of the Gods and the Algorithms of Men. It is here that appears the question of power vs. love mentioned above in the form of the power of logic for handling physical nature when there is no room for talking about Spirit. This is the case of Blaise Pascal’s famous talk about esprit de géometrie et de finesse (check here and e.g. “geometry” in his work, also here), long before Jung conceived the psychological types and its more or less mindful, criticized derivates. It is the power of mathematics and logic that allows to manipulate and force spiritless nature, up to the rape of nature represented by (climate warming and) the application of quantum physics for nuclear weapons, while humans are seen mainly if not only a part of nature. It is to do what “we” want, it is coarse “pragmatism” while erudite “critical pragmatism” goes astray in the “crisis of western philosophy”, refers to “ethics” but does not dare to try to be applied to ongoing controversial societal problems such as consumption of drugs and wars like the latest in Ukraine. There is no talk about integrating matter with spirit, Christian Spirit instead of anthroposophic spirit, or feminine with masculine instead of caring for LGBT. At this point I do propose that such behavior can be seen as an analog of rape with no possibility of divorce, only of keeping silent. It would correspond to not being able to axle with the responsibility to frame a “convincing” counter-argument, because of weakness or stupidity. The extreme situation is the rape committed in the case of abusive popular problems of daily human-computer interaction that I explain and concretize in an essay with the specific title of The meaning of human-computer interaction, and lately if not finally in the analysis of artificial general intelligence (AGI/AI). The refusal, inability or impossibility of framing a counter-argument turns the whole event into a “rape”. Silence is taken as a looser’s agreement, mediocrity or stupidity. The more so when the logical attacker is fueled by, or turns himself also into being a victim and aggressor according to the analog of the “INCEL philosophy”.

 

I find that the victims of such a rape, seen against the excerpted material above are e.g. in a democracy the police and the prosecutor in a tribunal working with the principle of beyond any reasonable doubt, while the opposite may be the accused in a tribunal, in a dictatorship where justice is subordinated to the executive power of government.

 

The feeling of a rape arose in my mind when I read what I mentioned initially (above) the text written by a colleague of mine where he defended himself from a criticism of his published views on intelligent design and evolution. Upon further reflection I felt that his stout defense sounded a little like a self-inflicted abuse of his dignity. It looked also as a forced attack on his opinions, and attack that could or should not be treated in terms of logical arguments and counter-arguments. This in turn made me question what dignity is or should be, something akin to integrity. A search for dignity in the Merriam-Webster on-line dictionary in my view comes closest to my feeling in item #1: formal reserve or seriousness of language. In turn reserve in this context does in my mind come closest in the core meaning of our context as item #4: restraint in one’s words and actions, forbearance from making a full explanation, complete disclosure, or free expression of one's mind. And I mean that all this means a necessary respect in extremely complex issues and thoughts that other logical-analytical people who dislike ordinary language (or in the worst case are emotional or philosophical analphabets, cf. emotional intelligence, BPD, psychopathy). They want to force, manipulate others into a distorting, apparent simplicity. It is a meaningful curiosity that the “See also” section of Wikipedia on Psychopathy lists both “Moral psychology” and Serial rapist” (!). The view that is most dissenting from this one above is obviously very simple: the fellow who is not analytically, logically and mathematically skilled is assumed to be stupid or suited with something else than talking about these matters. On this track it is also possible to speculate whether the line of demarcation between giftedness for languages and humanities vs. the same for formal sciences (and music) is dependent upon the degree of inborn ability to abstract from the emotional content of language communication (cf. Cajori, above). This leads in turn to the Psychological Types of analytical psychology.

 

 

Finally, we have the question of why people go and sometimes keep together discussing with each other despite of rape or reciprocal rape that can be figuratively and blandly correspond to BDSM, if it is not taken as an entertaining sport between individuals as tennis, or then as soccer notwithstanding the need and meaning of entertainment. If not, it can be a frequent source of estrangement: among friends as co-dependency or litigation, in marriages as estrangement and divorce, in diplomacy as war.

 

I had told to a couple of colleagues of mine who like and seem to need private intimate debates, that had given me the impression that they need to communicate with humans in order to win debates and prove themselves to be right. This to the point of one of them having given me the motivation to write a whole paper on debates. He complained that the two of us could not sustain extensive debates, and told me recently by e-mail (in Swedish, translated by me) about his discussion with his other counterpart XXXX (items 1-4 below), while finally quoting (item 5) what his counterpart expressed about his own motivation for continuing the exchange. [With my observation in square brackets]:

 

1)    “XXXX and I do know how to debate. We are now in about the fifteenth round with posts of between four and seven pages.”

 

2)    "The discussion with XXXX was instructive even if we never reached the end before the forum [ref. Christianism and evolution in the spirit of IFES] was closed. By the way, the discussion about Intelligent Design and evolution is impossible to conclude because the theory of evolution is so young - there is so much left to explore.”

 

3)    “In the discussion with XXXX, I will never be right or wrong, we will at best agree to where we disagree". [Cf. disagreement in divorce or cancel culture, and in the case of the “seventh reader” in the appendix of my paper on the Russia-Ukraine conflict.]

 

4)    “I am interested in finding out and evaluating the arguments for and against my opinion. This is generally considered important for not to get stuck in a bubble, as many do.

 

5)    Why I keep in the dialog: I think it partly depends on the purpose of the discussion. (I am now referring to the kind of discussion that you and I have, where we start from different worldviews.) I don't think we can intellectually convince each other - at least it would be extremely rare - but there are others purposes, to better understand others, to sharpen one's own thinking, perhaps even to arrive together at certain positions that we in all cases can share.

 

The first quotation can be seen as compared with an earlier message in which my colleague mentioned that he and XXXX had an earlier tour of written discussions whose volume corresponded to two filled binders.

 

The second and third quotations above show how it is possible to justify that no conclusions were reached when nobody “wins” de debate because they are equally gifted, while rebutting the allegation that one wants to “win” and prove oneself “right”.

 

The third quotation repeats what an acquaintance of mine who was more diplomatic than some others told me as criticism after reading my paper about the Russia-NATO-Ukraine conflict (cf. the quotation from the “seventh reader”, in the paper).

 

The fourth quotation puts into evidence that there is no “why-because” of the “interest”, and that getting stuck in a bubble reveals the need for a lacking deep communion of love with somebody other than the logician-counterpart.

 

The fifth and last quotation reveals a hidden unconscious assumption of what (disregarding what “intellect” is or may be) intellectually a worldview is or should be if the latter is not borrowed from a philosophical system of thought such a Hegelian Weltanshauung. That was the interpretation offered by the systems philosopher West Churchman in The Design of Inquiring Systems (DIS, chap. 7 on dialectic, cf. index here). Much more serious is the question of sharpening rather than buffing or rounding, if it does not mean only or mainly sharp logic (idem, DIS chap. 2 on fact-nets). And still more serious is the question of what understanding (others) is, beyond sheer agreement or sharing of positions (idem, chap.5 on consensus), when it is not Christian love and charity.

 

But the most important thing appears to me to be why debates are felt to be important even when “rapes” are committed, that is, why do people usually continue to discuss, and paradoxically why and how they stop as illustrated in two case studies in my essay on information on: Christianism or Atheism referred to above. They stopped after no longer finding a “common ground” for continuing. The question is what is or should be such common ground that else may correspond to the mentioned worldview, which in turn may have been religion and forgotten Christianism. And in psychoanalytic terms and in terms of my experience I wish to advance the hypothesis that it is a question of the very complex phenomenon of countertransference, which because of its complexity motivated Carl Jung to recommend to recommend that the education of psycho-analysts should include their undergoing a psychoanalysis by an elder experienced analyst.

 

Countertransference is an explanation of why people willingly continue to be “raped”, besides and beyond possible social advantages in what regards career and prestige in the profession or community. In my case I have conceived that such debates amount to wishing to teach and learn from each other. In my experience it was a surprise for me when my counterpart XXXX repeatedly did not understand my texts, as it often happens when educated adults do not understand texts the require prior study or lack a very specific gift as for mathematics and formal sciences. Quite early he began to see me not as colleague but as “teacher” complaining that if he did not understand something then it was my fault because of my shortcomings in explaining, in my educational skill or worse (stupidity). This emboldened me to try to act and affirm myself in the role of “teacher”, which led him to freeze into the position of challenging, revolting and aggressive “pupil” who, in turn, would arise my own aggressiveness. In Wikipedia’s terms this is a situation where there is a “redirection of a psychotherapist’s feelings toward a client – or more generally a therapist emotional entanglement with a client”, indicating the possibility and need of a deeper understanding of the whole issue, along the lines exemplified in some available literature.

 

Since both colleagues act as “besserwisser” in different aspects of the discussed issue, they get emotionally entangled with each other, both feeling like children inculpating the other who is seen as a teaching father, instead of confessing in sorrow their own shortcoming in not being able to understand. They both, incapable of seeing or confessing their own “shadow”, wish to be teachers treating the other as a pupil or child, according to the archetype of the “father”. Meanwhile they paradoxically regress into the role of an aggressive child revolting against the authority of its parents, in order to be able to inculpate the counterpart for their own shortcomings. The corresponding figures in rape is the woman who wants to be attractive and able to manipulate the man for her own advantage, but does not want to be chased and raped, which raises her later aggressiveness. For the man it is the wish of appearing strong, smart and attractive, satisfying his lust but not wanting commitment and responsibility for the consequences, which raises his counterpart’s aggressiveness.

 

An equivocal apparent solution and substitute for “traditional” love in a decadent culture is to avoid been confronted with the challenge of resistance, oppositeness or difference, to see oneself and a LGBT, non-binary or polyamory, and an effortless auto-didact, do-it-yourself, after having hoped in vain for the psychoanalytic “critical insight and rationality” of the Society without the Father, within a permissive society which is unrealistically expected to act like an unconditional caring mother where “anything goes”. Then logic’s discipline is hoped to rescue from anything goes.

 

 

 

Conclusion

 

 

It becomes then difficult to retreat from the role of all-knowing father and from needy child that is taught without effort. That is, to accept our own ignorance in certain issues and our impotence in teaching and learning things that we or even others in our culture barely understand. But countertransference is a psychoanalytic concept that should be translated in its correspondent terms in analytical psychology, but ultimately in Christian doctrine, if one does not wish before that to read The Collected Dialogues of Plato (Eds. Hamilton & Cairns, Princeton Univ. Press) that exhausts the meaning of debate and friendship (cf. Lysis) while its index curiously and symptomatically relates conversation to intercourse.

 

Since the Christian message that love is related to will (to love), I do not refrain from quoting for a third time in my writing a quotation from Jan Brouwer’s Life, art and mysticism:

 

[R]idiculous is the use of language when one tries to express subtle nuances of will which are not part of the living reality of those concerned, when for example so-called philosophers or metaphysicians discuss among themselves morality, God, consciousness, immortality, or the free will. These people do not even love each other, let alone share the same subtle movements of the soul; sometimes they even do not know each other personally. They either talk at cross-purposes or each builds his own little logical system which lacks any connection with reality. For logic is life in the human brain; it may accompany life outside the brain but it can never guide it by virtue of its own power. Indeed, if there is a harmony of will, logic may well fall by the wayside ...

 

I think that the final translation of countertransference to the language of Christian doctrine is the most difficult final obstacle to surmount, besides love as in Matthew 22:37-39). It is “The Mote and the Beam” (Matthew 7:1-5) with which I terminate my text below. My conclusion is that debates risk to be forcibly reduced to logic and that can be perceived as forced debates where logic is a substitute for Christian love. It may also be the reason of why one of the most insightful if yet otherwise problematic pioneers of Swedish feminism, Ellen Key [commented in my texts here and here], wrote her original book on Kvinnopsykologi och Kvinnlig Logik [Feminine psychology and feminine logic] . Rape and power or, rather violence, are substitutes for love. It is a main aspect of the age old, historically rooted concept of HUBRIS. It is as if the belief that right and good communication can be enforced by means of a logical police or human-computer interaction, as daily crimes today are often supposed to be fixed by laws, police and prisons. Forced debate can be conceived as a spiritual rape where the raped is co-responsible for being raped because of accepting to discuss and hoping to understand other humans, complex and holy issues in logic terms, without courage to confess his sins and to struggle for truth and love in his mind. And now: Matthew 7:1-5:

 

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.